#165 Rebuilding Police Firearms Training w/ Chancey Pogue & Brian Stahl

Here’s another episode coming off the annual Texas Tactical Police Officers Association Conference in Round Rock, Texas.

Today’s guests are Chancey Pogue and Brian Stahl — veteran police officers, owners of Reddison’s Group Training Company, and the guys leading the firearms program at a large metro law enforcement agency in Texas.

We dig into the philosophy behind their training methods, how they’re helping shift culture inside their agency, and what it really means to prepare officers for the job — not just check a box and call it “qualified.”

Chancey and Brian are the real deal — humble, capable, and leading from the front.

Enjoy this conversation and share it with your team, your agency, or anyone who needs to hear what these guys are about.

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro

00:31 SWAT School Takeaways

03:13 Brian’s Career Path

10:06 Chancey’s Journey in Law Enforcement

17:11 Training Challenges in Law Enforcement

36:26 Trainee Expectations & Instructor Engagement

39:00 Practical Skills vs. Qualification

45:05 Self-Diagnosis & Growth Mindset

56:41 Real-World Accountability

01:04:17 Isolation in the Profession

01:06:12 Failure as a Training Tool

01:18:42 Competition & Performance

01:26:34 Culture Change: The Sandpaper Approach

01:33:08 Positive Training Culture

01:36:40 Recognizing & Rewarding Excellence

01:42:42 Knowledge Sharing & Networking